Although I’ve always been an early riser, I usually don’t book client calls or interviews for too early in the morning.

I prefer to start them at 10 AM, to give me time to do my morning routine, for my brain to wake up, and to be on my “A-Game” by the time I pop open the laptop.

But I recently broke my “No Early Calls” rule, chugged my Red Bull, and met with Tina Dahmen at 7:30 AM to be interviewed for a virtual event that she invited me to speak on.

I also broke my “No-More-Summits-or-Virtual Events Interviews” rule for her, because she’s gathered a bunch of great online course experts that I like and respect to teach others how to build, market, sell and scale an online course and make an impact in the world.

During my interview I pulled back the curtains and shared a “warts and all” look at my own course creation journey in the hopes that it can motivate you with your course (and help you avoid some costly pitfalls and headaches).

If you’re serious about getting your own online course out there and selling lots of it, you can grab your ticket for the event here:

https://marcmawhinney–tinadahmen.thrivecart.com/all-access-pass-original/